Stay away. We don't want you.

"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn) 01/22/2020 at 13:55 • Filed to: go away

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Seriously. Stop coming to Austin. You’re only going to make the traffic worse.

On average, 100 people move to Austin every day, and another statistic stated that those 100 people add 85 cars per day. Twenty percent of our total metropolitan population !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! . It routinely takes me an hour to drive the 15 miles downtown for a rehearsal. So go away. Better yet, don’t come in the first place.

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For Sweden > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:00

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I thought the government was building a wall to keep people out of Texas

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:00

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The US needs to learn to rezone and build up as cities grow...just because there’s room to expand out doesn’t mean you should

ttyymmnn > For Sweden 01/22/2020 at 14:02

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Just build one around Austin.

phenotyp > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:02

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There’s a huge complex being built at Airport and Bolm. 183 is a shitshow.  I’m absolutely dreading the next year.

Ash78, voting early and often > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:05

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When I was a kid growing up in a smallish Florida town , we were always inundated with snowbirds — many of who stayed permanently, overtaking all the locals by a huge margin . The “ I love NY” shirts got so bad, there was a local bumper stick that said “If you love NY, just take I-95 North”

You know who’s getting decimated by CA transplants? Boise, Idaho. This is an interesting read about one of the cooler small cities in the US :

https://www.businessinsider.com/californians-priced-out-move-to-idaho-2018-10

For Sweden > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:05

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I think Berlin tried that

facw > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 01/22/2020 at 14:05

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Austin is growing up, not just out, but it desperately needs more public transit Austin’s Capital Metro was founded in 1985 with the goal of being a real urban mass transit system, but didn’t have a single rail line until 2010 (which is still the only one). Being dense is only marginally helpful if you don’t have efficient ways to get people around.

For Sweden > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 01/22/2020 at 14:06

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If we elect Doug we can solve many of these problems

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ttyymmnn > phenotyp 01/22/2020 at 14:07

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I drove the new toll road down from Pflugerville to the airport last weekend. When it’s finished it will be quite nice. Should have been built years ago, when the airport first opened. I’m waiting to see how the drive is using the free frontage roads. It looks like most of it will have bypasses for the cross streets.

They are building houses and apartments like mad up here in Wells Branch where I live. They build these city-sized apartment  complexes with no consideration whatsoever for the infrastructure to handle all the added vehicles that will come and go from these complexes. The backups are already insane. And as I sit on MoPac at 6:00pm trying to go south, I watch the handful of cars who can afford the $10 toll go whizzing by in the express lane and realize that all of that construction on MoPac for all those years was never about relieving the traffic problems, it was always only about making money. Mobility in Austin is a shitshow right now. 

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:08

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But a transit system that anyone can use is dirty socialism.

“ Can’t have them gawd-dayum city libruls takin MY taxes for use on something that doesn’t benefit ME.”

-Someone who lives in  Texas, but NOT in a city. Probably.

ttyymmnn > For Sweden 01/22/2020 at 14:08

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If Abbot had his way, he’d build a wall down I-35 and hide all the homeless people on the east side of it. 

For Sweden > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:08

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That would be one way to make Austin less full

jminer > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:10

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I went to Austin for a work trip late last summer and damn was it full of people. A small college town that wasn’t small anymore.

It had been on my list of places to maybe live someday but not anymore. Not bad to visit, but won’ t live there.

ttyymmnn > Ash78, voting early and often 01/22/2020 at 14:10

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One of the articles I linked said that, contrary to popular belief here in town, most of those coming aren’t coming from CA. They are coming from other large TX cities like Houston and San Antonio. Although, in a few years it will likely be one MSA that includes Austin and San Antonio. There used to be open country between the two cities. Not any more. 

gettingoldercarguy > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 01/22/2020 at 14:11

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Portland does this quite well.

ttyymmnn > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 01/22/2020 at 14:12

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Texas, and Travis County in which the city resides, is a reliably blue place, even though the state government based in Austin is overwhelmingly red. It’s more about Texans not wanting to give up their cars. My wife takes a commuter bus every day, but my work doesn’t allow for it. I would if I could. Or if it were offered reliably. 

Jim Spanfeller > Ash78, voting early and often 01/22/2020 at 14:13

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Can confirm, Boise is expanding. At least it seems to be expanding at a rate where it’s not becoming overloaded...

ttyymmnn > jminer 01/22/2020 at 14:13

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If you go north to Round Rock or Pflugerville, or south to Buda or even San Marcos, it’s not too bad. At least not yet.  But if you live there and have to commute to the city to work, you’re screwed.

For Sweden > Jim Spanfeller 01/22/2020 at 14:14

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Time to move to the Falls . The ground only glows a little bit at night.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:15

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I’m currently looking at potential cities and jobs for when I graduate in May. I think I’m going to add Austin to my list just to spite you.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:17

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My wife’s cousin recently moved there from NY. 

Svend > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:18

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Get you wanting the roads to yourself, such an,

You could be an Ambassador (1) to you fellow Countryman (2) and help Somerset (3) into the Metro (4) area. I’d be there like a Whippet (5) to the Metropolit an (6) area if I could .

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atfsgeoff > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:18

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An hour to go 15 miles, at that rate you’re better off on a bike

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > facw 01/22/2020 at 14:18

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True about the public transit, high population density doesn’t work without it. As far as building up vs out, I bet Austin is still growing out faster than it is up.

For Sweden > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 01/22/2020 at 14:19

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Austin is working on it

https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/austin-eyeing-november-election-to-fund-multi-billion-dollar-transit-system-expansion

ttyymmnn > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 01/22/2020 at 14:20

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The economy is great. If you can put up with the crowds, it’s a great place to live. Just remember that everything, from the restaurants to the roads to the festivals will be shoulder to shoulder.

lone_liberal > For Sweden 01/22/2020 at 14:21

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Unless it has changed since I lived there Idaho Falls is not an overly enjoyable place. Of course I was 20 years old back then and looking for nightlife. Idaho Falls was not a nightlife kind of place.

ttyymmnn > Snuze: Needs another Swede 01/22/2020 at 14:21

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ttyymmnn > Svend 01/22/2020 at 14:22

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I’m impressed. That took some effort. Well played.

For Sweden > lone_liberal 01/22/2020 at 14:22

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Who needs nightlife when you have a pony keg

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > For Sweden 01/22/2020 at 14:22

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Nice. It’d be cool to see more cities do that

and 100 more > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:23

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We rrrrrrrreally need a train system... It’s getting beyond ridiculous. I say this as someone who’s only been here less than a decade, but seriously, a good metro system would make Austin fantastic.

ttyymmnn > atfsgeoff 01/22/2020 at 14:24

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Almost. But that can be hazardous to your health around here.

Thomas Donohue > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:24

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What about the subway and the light rail? Are they crowded too?  ;)

Snuze: Needs another Swede > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:24

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Don’t worry, you’ll barely notice her, she’ll blend right in with all the other stereotypical millennials flocking to Austin.

ttyymmnn > and 100 more 01/22/2020 at 14:25

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A train that goes somewhere useful, like UT or the airport. We have a station very close to our house, but my wife, who works at UT, would have to get off at MLK and then take a bus to campus. As it is, the train is usually full of people from farther north by the time it gets here. Capacity is laughable. 

ttyymmnn > Thomas Donohue 01/22/2020 at 14:26

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Our ONE commuter rail line is laughably inadequate.

MrSnrub > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:26

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There might be another transit initiative on the ballot in November, if there is I’m probably voting for it.

https://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2020-01-17/city-and-cap-metro-contemplate-how-to-make-a-real-city-transit-system/

ttyymmnn > MrSnrub 01/22/2020 at 14:28

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I have heard rumblings of it, but haven’t looked into the details. It remains to be seen if the city can commit to it--or pay for it. 

and 100 more > For Sweden 01/22/2020 at 14:28

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I’ve been in Austin for, oh, seven? eight? years now... Yeah, they’ve been “seriously considering it ” for at least the last 25 years, as I’ve gathered.   It’s not gonna happen.

For Sweden > and 100 more 01/22/2020 at 14:30

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What if we imported more voters to make it happen?

Spanfeller is a twat > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:31

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I’m sorry your city has an incompetent government that can’t deal with growth. However, if you’re a homeowner... you must be banking in quite a lot of money in assets.  

ttyymmnn > Spanfeller is a twat 01/22/2020 at 14:32

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I bought my house 17 years ago for about $135k. It’s now assessed at about $250k, and that’s without the remodeled kitchen and small bathroom.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > For Sweden 01/22/2020 at 14:35

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This is TEXMURICA! A ll voters must be made in TEXMURICA!

lone_liberal > For Sweden 01/22/2020 at 14:35

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A single 20 year old that was in the Navy and worked 12 hour days, not counting bus ride, on a seven day shift rotation at the nuclear training site. When my 4 days off came around I really wanted to talk with a young woman or two since I didn’t see any for weeks at a time.

HoustonRunner > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:41

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Not bad? When I grew up there you could drive down 35 and there was green space between Austin and Pflugerville and then more before you got to Austin.

I remember getting McDonald’s in RR.

I also don’t live there any more, and stopped visiting friends as often because the traffic is worse than Houston. (Though some of that is just my perspective, since I’m comparing it to 20 years ago.)

For Sweden > lone_liberal 01/22/2020 at 14:42

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I mean if you insist on being straight that’s a you problem

Svend > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:43

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Cheers Champ , it only took Seven or 8 Mini -ts Maxi-mum . I just wanted to draw a Sheerline in the sand

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For Sweden > MrSnrub 01/22/2020 at 14:43

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Not good enough. Austin needs to be at least level 5.

ttyymmnn > HoustonRunner 01/22/2020 at 14:47

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We lived in Houston from 89-92 when I was going to grad school at Rice . I rather liked it back then. Even when traffic was bad, there was an alternate route you could take. That was back in the days before GPS and you had to buy a Key Map each year to figure out how to get to your gigs. That was also when there was open farmland between Houston and Katy. 

Spanfeller is a twat > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:49

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kitchens are expensive... if a house was remodeled without the bathrooms or kitchens it’s a sign that the owners were giving it a once over rather than a proper overhaul... which would turn into an advantage for the buyer if they were trying to sell at a higher than usual rate for the area. So I suppose you remodeled the right things.

Plus having a nice kitchen is really cool.

Gaslollipop > Snuze: Needs another Swede 01/22/2020 at 14:49

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they all moving from New York. Explains the inability to drive

HammerheadFistpunch > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:53

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I know that story, 3 U tah cities are in the top 10 of most people’s fastest growing cities list.

Verdog ~ manual Bro, Bro - HellHawk Equipped > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:54

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I’m in Georgetown, work in Austin.  First 20 miles in 15 minutes, last 5 miles takes 20 minutes.  I agree, DO NOT COME!

ttyymmnn > Spanfeller is a twat 01/22/2020 at 14:55

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https://oppositelock.kinja.com/ttyymmnns-new-kitchen-1794644898

Gaslollipop > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 14:57

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The other day it took 45 minutes to travel from Wells Branch to McNeil and 183. That’ s about 8 miles. Also people need to be reminded to turn on your headlights in bad weather. I cant see your silver car in the water spray.

ttyymmnn > Verdog ~ manual Bro, Bro - HellHawk Equipped 01/22/2020 at 15:00

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I play in the Austin Symphony and Austin Opera. We had an opera rehearsal last night that started at 7:00 at the Long Center. I left my house at 5:30. Would have left earlier if I could. Now, I do like to get to the hall about 45 minutes early, but I had to shell out for the MoPac express lanes  and it still took 45 minutes. ASO rehearsals start at 7:30, and that extra half hour can make a big difference. But it’s all hit or miss. Some days the traffic isn’t entirely horrible, then other days, for no apparent reason, it is just dead stop everywhere. I love Austin, but god, do I hate driving here. It just sucks the soul out of you. 

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 15:00

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I was there last month, and one car ride took over an hour to go like four miles. Downtown was dirty and gross and deserted until Thursday. The weather was nice, though.

ttyymmnn > Gaslollipop 01/22/2020 at 15:00

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My son goes to McNeil, so yeah. I hear ya. The stack up at McNeil and Parmer is a nightmare. 

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 15:00

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Mine was $160k and now worth north of $800k. Thank goodness for Prop 13. When I cash in, maybe we’ll move to Idaho, if they haven’t bullied Nevada into stopping us at their border.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Spanfeller is a twat 01/22/2020 at 15:04

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I think that’s a nuanced deal. If you do a deluxe kitchen, spend $50k or more, you better hope the next family likes it. Whereas, if you like your current kitchen, save the money and sell for $20k less, maybe? I just can’t see making decisions about how to live in my home based upon what the next family might like, or what the Joneses think when they visit.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > MrSnrub 01/22/2020 at 15:05

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TAX

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > For Sweden 01/22/2020 at 15:06

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I’d like to sit back and watch some of this:

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 15:07

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Did you see my Idaho story yesterday?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Svend 01/22/2020 at 15:07

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Yes; well played.

ttyymmnn > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 01/22/2020 at 15:08

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I generally don’t go downtown. My wife and I are too old and too tired and too much parents to hang out at the clubs. I go regularly to the south side of the lake (it’s really a river) because that’s where the symphony plays. I generally stay away from downtown unless I have a gig there. 

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > lone_liberal 01/22/2020 at 15:10

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I met my wife -- 30 years so far -- in the Army, believe it or not. The ratio was like 200:1 dudes and still, I got her, and all she got was me.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 15:11

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So the firren-bilt toll roads might wind up being useful?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > For Sweden 01/22/2020 at 15:11

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No. Idaho has bullied Nevada into stopping Californians at the NV border.

and 100 more > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 15:13

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Yeah, the train they have is so ridiculously small. And slow. And it has to travel such a long distance, it takes about as long as driving anyway.

I’ll be that guy: Austin needs to look to Portland for inspiration. They don’t have the best m etro in the world, but they have one that traverses rivers through its downtown areas, and complex urban landscapes.

and 100 more > For Sweden 01/22/2020 at 15:14

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Shhhh! Don’t give away the secret California a genda!

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > HammerheadFistpunch 01/22/2020 at 15:14

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https://drive.google.com/open?id=1egLJERg6PAorD1Qqf6i0Mgz5jgtRh7ZN

Idaho is going to have to bully Nevada into stopping Californians at the Nevada border. Resistance is futile. I’m considering the high desert of New Mexico. Seriously. Though Missus is less than thrilled at that prospect...

M.T. Blake > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 15:14

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Still not as bad as the cities of California.

and 100 more > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 01/22/2020 at 15:15

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“Texas was the only state to also be AN independent country, AND WE COULD DO IT AGAIN!”

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/22/2020 at 15:18

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No. Shoot me a link.

Textured Soy Protein > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 15:19

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I could say the same about DC, except I moved here a little under 2 years ago so technically I’m part of the problem.

M y commute is 5 miles opposite traffic because I work farther out from the city than where I live. I can make it from my driveway to ass in seat at my desk in 17 minutes if I hit all the lights right.

I put up with a moderate amount of insanity at my job, because of that commute, and no-deductible health insurance . If only property values weren’t so ridiculous here. Maybe I should move to Austin. 

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/22/2020 at 15:20

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That particular one. But I don’t think that was built with Spanish money. The one near my house was. And talk about boondoggle. When they built it, they also built huge toll complexes, some with 20 lanes. And they knew full well that RFID tolling tags were coming. So now all of those complexes, along with the booths at every entrance and exit, sit empty. 

ttyymmnn > and 100 more 01/22/2020 at 15:21

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Our train also runs on a single track, so your ride is interrupted by pulling over to a siding so the train going in the opposite direction can pass. 

ttyymmnn > M.T. Blake 01/22/2020 at 15:21

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Not yet, but as all the Californians relocate to Austin, we will catch up. 

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > For Sweden 01/22/2020 at 15:23

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The cars in East Austin are going to be shit.

NKato > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 15:26

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Welcome to the urbanization of America, and the utter lack of action by the politicians. 

Spanfeller is a twat > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/22/2020 at 15:32

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It depends on how competitive the market is, as someone who worked in realestate I can tell you we really squeezed some deals out of homeowners who had ancient kitchens in recently remodeled apartments.

You could say we were shrewd negotiators .

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Spanfeller is a twat 01/22/2020 at 15:39

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I would ask you, then, how much would a median kitchen cost in one of those apartments versus actual value added? (I’m not disagreeing, just too lazy to remodel my kitchen when I’m very happy with it as it is.)

ttyymmnn > Textured Soy Protein 01/22/2020 at 15:39

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Maybe I should move to Austin.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > gettingoldercarguy 01/22/2020 at 15:54

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Too bad we can't fix our roads to relieve congestion though.

Spanfeller is a twat > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/22/2020 at 16:02

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If you’re not planning to sell and you’re happy with your kitchen you could keep it as is. However we’d regularly pay 30-50k to remodel an apartment’s kitchen including labor... but it varies entirely on how crazy you wanna go.

We’d add anywhere from 35-60k in value; unless it was custom made; then whatever we wanted. But for custom kitchens it’d have to be a very fancy apartment or a new one or else the expense would be barely noticeable.

An area homeowners in Mexico City usually overlooked was parking and common-areas amenities... unless the area had like, a fucking pool or a tennis court but we never delved in such large projects. In reality you just wanna stick out in order to get the best ROI; and nowadays that means checking the most boxes possible.

But I’d like to underline that the biggest added value was seen in the most competitive neighborhoods. Someone who lives in Austin; an area that might be experiencing quick land value appreciation, would benefit more from a new kitchen than someone that lives in lets say San Antonio. And it also depends; if you’re talking about gas burners and custom cabinets its a sure win; if you have something stupid like a teppanyaki grill its harder to find someone to appreciate it.

M.T. Blake > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 16:02

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Idahoans are fleeing to Montana. Where are all the Texans fleeing to? Arkansas? New Mexico? Oklahoma?

ttyymmnn > M.T. Blake 01/22/2020 at 16:06

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I don’t know. I can’t flee anywhere. 

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > HammerheadFistpunch 01/22/2020 at 16:07

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I’ve heard Ogden is exploding? I can’t even imagine it – it was entirely unmemorable last time I drove through, which would have been in 2005 when I graduated from USU up in Logan.

HammerheadFistpunch > ZHP Sparky, the 5th 01/22/2020 at 16:13

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All of the W astach front would be almost unrecognizable from 2005. its nuts. 

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Spanfeller is a twat 01/22/2020 at 16:47

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My house is a 60-year-old one-story wood-frame California tract house. It still has the original cabinets, made of Douglas fir, built on site. I stripped them and painted them a few years back, added a new felted vinyl floor, and painted. The original doors were plywood slab doors which I left off. So currently, no cabinet doors, though I started to make some Shaker-style doors, but lost interest and motivation for the moment. We also have old wood floors that are probably 40 years old. So when/if we sell, it’ll be time to decide what to do, but we’ll do a granular ROI analysis because if I were buying, I am a contrarian about most things, but I’d pay a little more, perhaps, to have a cleaner slate to work with and make things just how I like them.

fintail > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 18:50

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As a metro Seattle resident, I feel you.  We were full 20 years ago.

Dusty Ventures > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 18:52

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Fine. I won’t come down to do some planespotting with you then

fintail > atfsgeoff 01/22/2020 at 18:53

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I think that’s literally the average commute speed around Seattle.

Tacoma to Seattle and Everett to Bellevue drives were closing in on 2 hours this morning.

ttyymmnn > Dusty Ventures 01/22/2020 at 18:55

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You’re welcome to come, just don’t buy a house!

coqui70 > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 20:39

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Austin is overrated anyway ... Houston has better food.

DipodomysDeserti > ttyymmnn 01/22/2020 at 21:28

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The Phoenix Metropolitan Area population grew by people than Austin’s entire population in the last decade.

Having grown up here, it’s crazy to see how the areas where I used to ride quads are now in the middle of the city.

We have shitty public transit, but well designed roads. For being one of the biggest cities in the US, traffic here is great.

Spanfeller is a twat > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/23/2020 at 11:01

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That would be catering to a more DIY market that does exist... however I don’t know how attractive tract houses are to DIY-ers

I imagine that if it’s an area as competitive as you say it is (I got lost in the thread but you said something along the lines of 800k) you might be looking more at an out-of-state market that wants everything done for them already... but I imagine that with that kind of appreciation you could sell it in any state for a magnificent margin... if you want to sell that is; otherwise as an appreciating asset, land is pretty certain if not sluggish compared to stocks and other investments